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		<title>By: doups3</title>
		<link>http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/acs-church-accounting-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-12414</link>
		<dc:creator>doups3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:11:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Pam

I just wrote a new post called &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/the-cost-of-using-quickbooks-for-your-church/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The Cost of Using QuickBooks for Your Church&lt;/a&gt;. I tried to outline all the costs that you might run into, but each church is different so I may have missed something. Thanks for the great question and let me know if my post didn&#039;t answer all of your questions. 

Best!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Pam</p>
<p>I just wrote a new post called <a href="http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/the-cost-of-using-quickbooks-for-your-church/" rel="nofollow">The Cost of Using QuickBooks for Your Church</a>. I tried to outline all the costs that you might run into, but each church is different so I may have missed something. Thanks for the great question and let me know if my post didn&#8217;t answer all of your questions. </p>
<p>Best!</p>
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		<title>By: doups3</title>
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		<dc:creator>doups3</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 16:19:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pam,

Excellent post. I&#039;ve been thinking a lot about this lately. I don&#039;t have time to answer all your questions right now (I have a regular day job, two babies, and I volunteer at my church 15 hours each week). That being said, I&#039;m going to cram in some time this week to answer all of these questions. I want to give a detailed explanation so it might take me an hour or two to put all the information together. My goal will be to clearly illustrate the costs of all the competing church accounting software programs out there right now. 

Anyways, sorry I can&#039;t answer right away! It should be up by the end of this week though (hope you can wait). 

Best</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pam,</p>
<p>Excellent post. I&#8217;ve been thinking a lot about this lately. I don&#8217;t have time to answer all your questions right now (I have a regular day job, two babies, and I volunteer at my church 15 hours each week). That being said, I&#8217;m going to cram in some time this week to answer all of these questions. I want to give a detailed explanation so it might take me an hour or two to put all the information together. My goal will be to clearly illustrate the costs of all the competing church accounting software programs out there right now. </p>
<p>Anyways, sorry I can&#8217;t answer right away! It should be up by the end of this week though (hope you can wait). </p>
<p>Best</p>
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		<title>By: Pam</title>
		<link>http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/acs-church-accounting-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-12356</link>
		<dc:creator>Pam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Oct 2011 05:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I noticed that Kim wrote last year she was thinking of moving away from ACS because of the monthly fees and she noted that going to Servant Keeper and QB was only going to cost about $150 a month.  Can someone tell me what the monthly upkeep in on QB Premiere is as well as the monthly fees are for Servant Keeper?  

I would also like to know if QB Premiere has the payroll functionality built in so that a church can actually do their own payroll without having to use the online payroll option from Intuit. 

And related to the last question if you can do your own payroll, to get the new tax tables etc each year, do you have to buy the new edition of QB Premiere or is there an upgrade each year for the new tax tables?  If an upgrade can you tell me about what does that upgrade cost?  

I am asking this on the ACS page because my churh has ACS and there are some members that want us to change packages due to the monthly maintenance cost of ACS, but if we are looking at approximately $150 a month for the Servant Keeper and QB Premiere then I would question the reasonableness of making a switch for us purely on a financial basis.

Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I noticed that Kim wrote last year she was thinking of moving away from ACS because of the monthly fees and she noted that going to Servant Keeper and QB was only going to cost about $150 a month.  Can someone tell me what the monthly upkeep in on QB Premiere is as well as the monthly fees are for Servant Keeper?  </p>
<p>I would also like to know if QB Premiere has the payroll functionality built in so that a church can actually do their own payroll without having to use the online payroll option from Intuit. </p>
<p>And related to the last question if you can do your own payroll, to get the new tax tables etc each year, do you have to buy the new edition of QB Premiere or is there an upgrade each year for the new tax tables?  If an upgrade can you tell me about what does that upgrade cost?  </p>
<p>I am asking this on the ACS page because my churh has ACS and there are some members that want us to change packages due to the monthly maintenance cost of ACS, but if we are looking at approximately $150 a month for the Servant Keeper and QB Premiere then I would question the reasonableness of making a switch for us purely on a financial basis.</p>
<p>Thank you in advance for any help you can provide.</p>
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		<title>By: Bill</title>
		<link>http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/acs-church-accounting-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-10172</link>
		<dc:creator>Bill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Mar 2011 13:44:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen Resa! I am not an account but do have experience in company books. I have been Treasurer of a 175 member church for over a year and had to jump into ACS with about 6 hours of training. It has been an experience I would never wish on any volunteer. It is very easy to make mistakes with this software and you have to watch out for visible as well as hidden defaults in the data entry areas. I just switched to PayChex for all payroll support and am actively looking for the simplest software for the accounting stuff. Quick Books looks like it has too many work arounds into Excel for me, but that is based on reading Kathy Ivens book, &quot;Running Quick Books in Non Profits&quot;. I&#039;m going to continue researching but we will get out of ACS this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen Resa! I am not an account but do have experience in company books. I have been Treasurer of a 175 member church for over a year and had to jump into ACS with about 6 hours of training. It has been an experience I would never wish on any volunteer. It is very easy to make mistakes with this software and you have to watch out for visible as well as hidden defaults in the data entry areas. I just switched to PayChex for all payroll support and am actively looking for the simplest software for the accounting stuff. Quick Books looks like it has too many work arounds into Excel for me, but that is based on reading Kathy Ivens book, &#8220;Running Quick Books in Non Profits&#8221;. I&#8217;m going to continue researching but we will get out of ACS this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Resa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Resa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Mar 2011 19:30:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I work for an accounting firm that has contracted to keep the weekly books for a large church that uses ACS.  I entered the accounting profession at the same time personal computers became affordable so I&#039;ve witnessed the evolution of software from CYMA to MAS90 to Solomon to Quickbooks.   I can honestly say that ACS has produced the worst piece of software I&#039;ve seen in many, many years.  For instance, I&#039;m currently going through a problem where the bank reconciliations done within the program don&#039;t balance to the cash on the Balance Sheet.  Worse still, this difference varies by thousands of dollars from month to month.  ACS support directed me to an article on their website which gave me several reasons why this may happens, but more than anything this tells me they&#039;re aware this is a flaw but haven&#039;t cared to fix it.  In the end they essentially told me it&#039;s something that&#039;s being done on our end.  That may well be true considering all the structural flaws this program has.  For instance, why does ACS still require the user to &#039;post&#039; to periods. If you accidentally post to the wrong period, say you post a January invoice to December of the previous year, your books will be incorrect.  And with this software that&#039;s a very easy mistake to make.  Plus once it&#039;s posted it&#039;s set in stone--there&#039;s no changing that particular entry.  Most quality accounting software evolved beyond this platform years ago but ACS is stuck in the stone ages.  My advice is to avoid this software.  Quickbooks is easier to manage plus it&#039;s as forgiving as the Lord, something ACS is not.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I work for an accounting firm that has contracted to keep the weekly books for a large church that uses ACS.  I entered the accounting profession at the same time personal computers became affordable so I&#8217;ve witnessed the evolution of software from CYMA to MAS90 to Solomon to Quickbooks.   I can honestly say that ACS has produced the worst piece of software I&#8217;ve seen in many, many years.  For instance, I&#8217;m currently going through a problem where the bank reconciliations done within the program don&#8217;t balance to the cash on the Balance Sheet.  Worse still, this difference varies by thousands of dollars from month to month.  ACS support directed me to an article on their website which gave me several reasons why this may happens, but more than anything this tells me they&#8217;re aware this is a flaw but haven&#8217;t cared to fix it.  In the end they essentially told me it&#8217;s something that&#8217;s being done on our end.  That may well be true considering all the structural flaws this program has.  For instance, why does ACS still require the user to &#8216;post&#8217; to periods. If you accidentally post to the wrong period, say you post a January invoice to December of the previous year, your books will be incorrect.  And with this software that&#8217;s a very easy mistake to make.  Plus once it&#8217;s posted it&#8217;s set in stone&#8211;there&#8217;s no changing that particular entry.  Most quality accounting software evolved beyond this platform years ago but ACS is stuck in the stone ages.  My advice is to avoid this software.  Quickbooks is easier to manage plus it&#8217;s as forgiving as the Lord, something ACS is not.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
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		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Dec 2010 22:21:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Kim,

Thanks for sharing your comments. I&#039;m starting to think that the Servant Keeper/ QuickBooks combination is going to be hard to beat.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Kim,</p>
<p>Thanks for sharing your comments. I&#8217;m starting to think that the Servant Keeper/ QuickBooks combination is going to be hard to beat.</p>
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		<title>By: Kim</title>
		<link>http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/acs-church-accounting-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-9299</link>
		<dc:creator>Kim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Dec 2010 19:38:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We utilize ACS people/finance/volunteer manager/extend website/ministry scheduler and have been very pleased with customer service over the years. They did go through a period where they were trying to set up chat customer service and the phone customer service was annoyingly unavailable. However, that seems to be fixed.

We are, however looking at Servant Keeper and Quickbooks because of budget. ACS for all of the above, monthly maintenance runs about $350/month for our church of 250. Report features are great. Servant Keeper and Quickbooks looks like it will fun us about $150/month average.

ACS can be learned by the lay person BUT that lay person needs to have a logical-type, data-processing type of mind.

Servant Keeper appears to have all the bells and whistles that I&#039;d like ACS to have. Very easy to learn. Very easy to set up groups. ACS has these capabilities with more steps.

I&#039;d recommend ACS and have done so, but we may be switching to Quickbooks/Servant Keeper for budget reasons and Volunteer train-ability reasons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We utilize ACS people/finance/volunteer manager/extend website/ministry scheduler and have been very pleased with customer service over the years. They did go through a period where they were trying to set up chat customer service and the phone customer service was annoyingly unavailable. However, that seems to be fixed.</p>
<p>We are, however looking at Servant Keeper and Quickbooks because of budget. ACS for all of the above, monthly maintenance runs about $350/month for our church of 250. Report features are great. Servant Keeper and Quickbooks looks like it will fun us about $150/month average.</p>
<p>ACS can be learned by the lay person BUT that lay person needs to have a logical-type, data-processing type of mind.</p>
<p>Servant Keeper appears to have all the bells and whistles that I&#8217;d like ACS to have. Very easy to learn. Very easy to set up groups. ACS has these capabilities with more steps.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d recommend ACS and have done so, but we may be switching to Quickbooks/Servant Keeper for budget reasons and Volunteer train-ability reasons.</p>
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		<title>By: Steve</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jul 2010 12:09:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nate,

I apologize that the right person from our organization has not contacted you. If you are a client calling for support, the best solution is to call 800-669-2509 or complete a &quot;contact request&quot; from the client portal: www.acstechnologies.com/clientportal

You can also email me directly at steve.cumbia@acstechnologies.com   I&#039;ll do my best to answer any questions you have or be sure to get you to the right person.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nate,</p>
<p>I apologize that the right person from our organization has not contacted you. If you are a client calling for support, the best solution is to call 800-669-2509 or complete a &#8220;contact request&#8221; from the client portal: <a href="http://www.acstechnologies.com/clientportal" rel="nofollow">http://www.acstechnologies.com/clientportal</a></p>
<p>You can also email me directly at <a href="mailto:steve.cumbia@acstechnologies.com">steve.cumbia@acstechnologies.com</a>   I&#8217;ll do my best to answer any questions you have or be sure to get you to the right person.</p>
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		<title>By: admin</title>
		<link>http://www.churchaccountingsoftwareguide.com/acs-church-accounting-software-review/comment-page-1/#comment-8315</link>
		<dc:creator>admin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Paul,

I&#039;ve heard a lot of good things about ACS, but over the past few months I&#039;ve been getting more negative reports. I&#039;ve tried calling them several times to talk with Steve Cumbia and other managers over there, but I keep getting sent to voice mails (we&#039;re not talking once here, we&#039;re talking several times and it has been months now since I&#039;ve communicated with them). I&#039;ve tried sending emails and those are getting ignored as well. I&#039;ve talked with other users and they are having a similar problem (talking with a sales rep and then getting the voice mail when they are transferred to someone who can actually help them). I&#039;ll probably have a post about it in the near future, but for now I&#039;m starting to recommend people to stay away from ACS. 

Best,

Nate</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Paul,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard a lot of good things about ACS, but over the past few months I&#8217;ve been getting more negative reports. I&#8217;ve tried calling them several times to talk with Steve Cumbia and other managers over there, but I keep getting sent to voice mails (we&#8217;re not talking once here, we&#8217;re talking several times and it has been months now since I&#8217;ve communicated with them). I&#8217;ve tried sending emails and those are getting ignored as well. I&#8217;ve talked with other users and they are having a similar problem (talking with a sales rep and then getting the voice mail when they are transferred to someone who can actually help them). I&#8217;ll probably have a post about it in the near future, but for now I&#8217;m starting to recommend people to stay away from ACS. </p>
<p>Best,</p>
<p>Nate</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Greatbatch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Greatbatch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 16:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How flexible are the reporting options? I find those in Church Windows very inflexible. Quickbooks appears to allow you to do just about anything. What about ACS?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How flexible are the reporting options? I find those in Church Windows very inflexible. Quickbooks appears to allow you to do just about anything. What about ACS?</p>
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